DATING BOTTLES BY THEIR TOPS AND BASES
Base codes on Owens-Illinois amber glass handled jug, or date code, made at factory B was jug style number. See list of 19 currently operating glass container plants in North America, farther down on this page. Several trademarks have been used over the years by Owens-Illinois. Most of the pics show the first and most widely recognized mark used beginning in As pictured, it can vary slightly from one container to another.
Antique Whiskey Bottle
Because they are almost years old, they are very collectible. Every collector should own a few of these as study pieces. I have also included some other Chinese paperweights that are newer or uniquely Chinese.
A pontil mark is a variably sized and type of scar left on the base of a bottle by a pontil rod. A typical pontil rod or “punte” was a long ( feet) iron rod which was securely attached to .
These bottles come in a wide variety of styles and are frequently pontiled. In many cases the pontil belies their true age. The early drugstore storage bottles were made of flint glass often with wide mouths with a thin bead of a lip. These early wide mouth varieties commonly found with their original tin lids rarely had an indented panel lack the label under glass.
In many cases labels were added at a later time. The vast majority of these bottles date from to the turn of the century. Later styles of these druggist bottles can readily be found with ground glass stoppers as shown in the figures above and below. Because they were purchased in great numbers by druggists, the bottles are very common and are easily found in antique shops, malls, and auctions. The glass labels had beeswax which was used as fill over the letters and designs painted on the reverse side of the glass and the wax served to adhere the label to the glass container.
The more desirable specimens have illicit drug names or highly colored labels and sell for greater sums. Examples in amber or cobalt glass will also bring higher prices.
decanters & drinking-glasses (dating notes)
Pontil Marks or Scars Click on the following links to move directly to the specific pontil scar discussions on this page: A typical pontil rod aka ponty, punty or punte was a long feet rod which was securely attached to the base of the just blown hot bottle Trowbridge A pontil rod held the bottle during the steps in the bottle blowing process where the blowpipe is removed cracked-off from the bottle and that break-off point is “finished”, i. Click empontilling and cracking off to see an illustration of these processes.
The process of applying the pontil rod to the base of a glass item or the later use of a snap tool and the detachment of the blowpipe was called “reversing” by glass makers Trowbridge
Do the mold seams disappear in the neck, but the bottle lacks a pontil mark? Blown-in-mold bottles without pontil marks date circa s to s. Post Bottles. Do the mold seams go all the way from the base to the lip? This is a machine-made bottle and dates after Look for a “suction” scar on the base. This will be shallower, wider and more perfectly circular than a pontil mark.
Please read the Important Information for Buyers section on the main “Bottles For Sale” page for complete buyer information. This is the only true Western barrel bitters or maybe used for liquor also? If you are looking for one of these you likely know the stories better than I. Since there were a few more of them around, economics dictated a falling of prices – which happened for a time. Examples are still seen at auctions and Western bottle shows now and then, though the supply is still dwarfed by the demand and prices have been ticking up again.
I recently acquired one that I know came from a particular Nevada mining camp, so I’m selling this example even though it is superior in condition and color. Anyway, this offered example is 9. Call it light yellow amber if you will; a tad lighter than the average example but not quite as light as the lighter example pictured in Wichmann’s book.
Determining the Value of Old Bottles
Known examples include the following figurines: All Paperweight marbles are very rare. The base glass is typically clear, though colored glass examples occur, yet only extremely rarely. These are harder to find than regular paperweight marbles and in fact are among the most valuable of all hand made marbles. Millefiori Paperweight Marble SLAGS Though slags are traditionally thought of as mostly machine made types, most of the earliest “transitional” marbles, that is to say those made partially by hand and partially by machine, as well as some hand made marbles, are slag-types.
Hand Made Slags Hand made slags can either be those drawn off a cane two pontil examples or formed by the single gather method single pontil examples.
Bottle Dating Guide. Open pontil which is most likely to date from or earlier. Iron pontil which usually dates around s to Smooth base from to current. Click on the picture to see the larger image: Before Whittle Marks- before
Base codes on Owens-Illinois amber glass handled jug, or date code, made at factory B was jug style number. See list of 19 currently operating glass container plants in North America, farther down on this page. Most of the pics show the first and most widely recognized mark used beginning in As pictured, it can vary slightly from one container to another. Latest confirmed date code with this older trademark known on a bottle is
Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Pontil Scars (But Were Afraid To Ask)?
Well, I was wrong. When Alan says a marble is rare, it is rare, no further discussion. But when he goes on to say the following, you can be sure you may never see a marble like this again: Folks who follow my auctions know I am not one for hyperbole, but I can safely and confidently say that this is the rarest marble I have ever offered, possibly a truly unique example.
A pontil scar or mark is a very useful midth century diagnostic dating characteristic. There are several different type pontil marks, all of which are a mark or scar on the bottle base left by a type of pontil rod.
Click on the picture to see a larger image. This teardrop shaped paperweight inkwell has a paneled millefiori pattern in the bottom of the bottle. There is a central complex “P” signature cane surrounded by a ring of canes in the center, then seven panels of canes consisting of a small cane and a larger complex cane, each panel separated by a short twist cane.
Another ring of small canes is on the outside. The foot is a translucent blue. The stopper has a single pink lampwork flower with six petals and three sepals.
decanters & drinking-glasses (dating notes)
Tarleton’s force of British in the King’s Army were sent against men under Morgan. The Colonial forces conducted a double development of Tarleton’s force, and suffered casualties of only 20 killed and 69 wounded. Tarleton was one of around British troops to escape. A small force of the Continental Army under the command of Brigadier General Daniel Morgan had marched to the west of the Catawba River, in order to forage for supplies and raise the morale of local Colonial sympathizers.
What was being cast is unknown-buttons, insignia?
A pontil mark is a variable size and type of scar or roughage left on the base of a bottle by a pontil rod. A typical pontil rod (aka ponty, punty or punte) was a long ( feet) rod which was securely attached to the base of the just blown hot bottle (Trowbridge ).
Each aspect of the bottle’s design, age and character must be taken into consideration when determining its value. Bottle Design A bottle that has a beautiful, interesting or significant design will generally be more valuable than one that is plain. A bottle that is embossed with the manufacturer’s name, location, or other information about where the bottle came from is of more interest to collectors than one that does not.
Loveliness Some people call it appeal. Whatever you call it, people are drawn to pretty things. A beautifully shaped bottle will be in more demand than a mundane bottle. Rarity Rarity can be hard to determine.
Owens-Illinois Glass Company
Please update your billing information in My WorthPoint to reactivate your account! No comments One of the easier to identify and most consistently accurate indicators that a bottle was manufactured during or prior to the American Civil War i. A pontil mark is a variably sized and type of scar left on the base of a bottle by a pontil rod.
Lips Beginning collectors often wonder how to tell the age of a particular bottle. One of the most important clues to the age of a bottle is the style of the lip. In the picture below are shown a number of lip styles common during the last century. Lips of Nineteenth Century Bottles All of the above lips were applied to the neck of the bottle after it was removed from the mold. A hot piece of glass was applied to the neck and then hand tooled to the proper shape.
The lips of bottles made before were often crudely applied and careful examination shows these irregularities. Sometime around it became common practice to tool the lips with a lipping tool, an object which fit one piece into the opening of the neck while two other pieces clamped on the outside of the applied band of glass. Then with a twisting motion, the top was uniformly shaped. Bottles produced during the last twenty years of the last century will show evidence of this twisting motion which left faint concentric rings around the mouth and upper part of the neck.